336: Understanding the rules of succeeding at the long game of success with guest expert Dorie Clark

Dorie Clark, author of The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World

Bill Ringle and Dorie Clark discuss how adopting longer range thinking leads to making more strategic and meaningful decisions, habits, and relationships than opportunistic, short-range thinking for small business managers, thought leaders, and entrepreneurs.

>>> Visit MyQuestforTheBest.com for complete show notes and more expert advice and inspiring stories to propel your small business growth. My Quest for the Best is a top-rated small business podcast with over 300 episodes of thought-provoking and insightful interviews with today’s top thought leaders and business experts. Host Bill Ringle’s mission with this show is to provide the strategies, insights, and resources that will unlock the growth potential of your business through these powerful conversations.

Interview Insights

Top 3 Takeaways from this Interview

  • Powerful decision-making is key to growing a company. Leaders should not shy away from tough decisions.
  • Anyone can manufacture a ‘crazy busy’ schedule — stop viewing it as a point of pride and stop using it as an excuse for not pursuing more long-range, meaningful goals.
  • You can put a schedule on your calendar dedicated to pursuing your dreams.

Read the Show Notes from this Episode

  • Dorie describes optimizing projects and career trajectories. [01:43]
  • CASE: Marian Stoddard, an 80-year-old housewife, who was the heroine of Dorie’s documentary, shared a piece of advice that really stuck to her, ‘whenever you have a choice of what to do, choose what’s more interesting.’ [02:51]
  • Always an advocate of networks and relationships, Dorie talks about landing a friendship with Susan Stoddard, a volunteer supporter of a candidate she was also supporting, which lead her to meet Marian. [04:22]
  • CASE: Francis Fry and how many companies are afraid to make hard decisions.  [09:09]
  • CASE: Derek Sivers, a musician turned successful entrepreneur. [12:32]
  • The downsides of having an overly busy schedule and how to choose instead to add space to pursue long-term goals. [15:13]
  • The pandemic comes with uncomfortable things that businesses need to deal with preventing business leaders from pursuing more meaningful goals. [17:10]
  • CASE: Dorie’s friend Petra Patrick and her initial fear of pursuing a dream due to lack of experience but how through dedication and motivation, she made her dream of deejaying achievable. [21:37]
  • Dorie talks about working with Forbes. [28:30]
  • My Quest for the Best Lightning Round begins.[34:33]

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Expert Bio

Dorie Clark helps individuals and companies get their best ideas heard in a crowded, noisy world. She has been named one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50 and was honored as the #1 Communication Coach in the world at the Marshall Goldsmith Coaching Awards. She is a keynote speaker and teaches for Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business and Columbia Business School. She is the author of Entrepreneurial You, which was named one of Forbes’ Top 5 Business Books of the Year, as well as Reinventing You and Stand Out, which was named the #1 Leadership Book of the Year by Inc. magazine.

A former presidential campaign spokeswoman, Clark has been described by the New York Times as an “expert at self-reinvention and helping others make changes in their lives.” She is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review, and consults and speaks for clients such as Google, Yale University, and the World Bank. She is a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, a producer of multiple Grammy-winning jazz albums, and a Broadway investor. You can download her free Entrepreneurial You self-assessment workbook at dorieclark.com/entrepreneur.

Contact Info and Social Media for Dorie Clark

Resources Mentioned During the Interview

Books Authored by Dorie Clark
Entrepreneurial You Stand Out Reinventing-You The Long Game


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